-------- "This is the time for action not only words, use your God given gifts to develop this country, dont be afraid to speak up, and feel PROUD THAT U R EGYPTIAN." -------- Mohaly, Feb 2011

Saturday, December 1, 2012

832) Which Answer is Right?!

Over the past week, some of the readers said enough with politics, while others said we need you to write more about it. So, let's read together this story about differences in perceptions and views, and you can either just enjoy the story, or reflect it on politics.

"Several citizens ran into a hot argument about Life & Creator, and each one could not agree to a common answer. So they came to Buddha to find out what exactly Life is. Buddha asked his disciples to get a large magnificent elephant and four blind men. He then brought the blind men to the elephant and told them to find out what the elephant would “look” like.


The first blind men touched the elephant leg and reported that it “looked” like a pillar. The second blind man touched the elephant tummy and said that an elephant was a wall. The third blind man touched the elephant ear and said that it was a piece of cloth. The fourth blind man hold on to the tail and described the elephant as a piece of rope. And all of them ran into a hot argument about the “appearance” of an elephant.
Buddha asked the citizens: “Each blind man had touched the elephant but each of them gives a different description of the animal. Which answer is right?”"
Now, we do love and see Egypt in many ways and forms and have different answers to the same question; How can Egypt rise and be better?! So Which answer is right? Actually all of them are, but all together. The only way for us to see the path to a better Egypt is to see it together. The Elephant was bigger than all the  blind men, and Egypt is bigger than its parties and sects.
Mohaly

57 comments:

NAMES said...

The story is nice and has a deep meaning.

"to see the path to a better Egypt is to see it together"...with whom ya3ny?!
"we do love and see Egypt in many ways and forms and have different answers to the same question" i agree with you but "we" here refer to normal people coz These people "president and 3asherto" they don't understand or even know what is the question aslan. they don't see. they are blinds or they look only under their feets. at least the blinds can feel but they don't. they don't accept the opinion of others. they don't care about Egypt aslan

i am frustrated :(

Mohaly said...

with those who see it as Egypt and only Egypt.

Maryam said...

i guess this takes us back to "Bab el Khoroug".
it will only work out when all stop working against eachother and start cooperating.
unfortunately, all parties have no intention of doing so in near future.
and when i say all, i really mean it.
disappointed from everyone. too many masks have fallen in the past weeks and faces are ugly.

we need a miracle from Allah. and this is my only hope now

Mohaly said...

yes a miracle, but I dont think we deserve it.

Mohaly said...


إن التعامل مع الدستور باعتباره قضية أغلبية وأقلية، وأن هناك مسودة كتبتها الأغلبية الإسلامية والمطلوب الموافقة عليها - يقتل فكرة كتابة «دستور أمة» فى مقتل، فالدستور يمثل فرصة تاريخية للشعوب بعد مراحل التغيير للتوافق ووضع الأسس التى سيبنى عليها النظام السياسى الجديد.
عمرو الشوبكى

Maryam said...

I never loose hope in Allah.
i dont know what else to do.
the problem is there are always ppl for and against whatever decrees we have, always supported by legal opinions and laws.
this means we have increadibly "elastic" laws that bear all meanings or we have incredibly good thieves of laws who stretch it to all sizes they need.
which at the end is no law at all.

i never imagined corruption went that deep.
meno lellah hosny elzeft. i could never forgive him for destroying the land this way.

Maryam said...

do you see any way out?

Mohaly said...

hopefully: what I have written here.
realistically: Blood.

Maryam said...

do you honestly think it would come to bloody confrontations?

i know what you mean, but i can't believe it will happen.

Mohaly said...

with the same escalation, it wont be far, may be sooner than expected...

An Example: Today they threatened to burn the Constitutional Court, if this happened, I am expecting revenge, and so on...

Maryam said...

that is what i dont understand. why on earth burn or threaten or anything. they are powerless anyway, after the president's announcement.

there is something wrong going on.

i read many articles of dostor. not bad.
one of my friends published a text of 150. i was terrified. when i checked it i found the text he published fake.
the problem is it is widely spreaded. i kept telling everyone that the text they publish is fake.

Mohaly said...

There are lots of concerns... confusion comes as well from the zillion published drafts.

Maryam said...

the dispute between MoI and the Constitutional Court?
at the beginning i heard the rumor that the judges refused to enter, although the MoI ensured them they are secure. then it came as an official statement from the Minister.
now they are scared? or prepare something else?

the announcement of the judges also confuses me. the part of
قضاة من أجل مصر announced they will take over the supervision of the estefta2.
a further statement telling me that morsi might not be completely wrong!

Mohaly said...

No one is completely right or wrong but things are getting out of hand quickly and there is no sense of responsibility.

Maryam said...

things are moving to the direction of Ezz Eldin Fekry, you mean?

Mohaly said...

yes more or less

Maryam said...

i dont think it will come to this extent. i dont think he is the bloody type.
but i fear the confrontations of tomorrow if any at the etehadia palace.
if he would only do a heroic move and invite opposite to talk. i guess they will refuse it anyway, unless the he drops the decree

Mohaly said...

I dont care if he is bloody or not, I care that there will be blood regardless who will shed it.

Maryam said...

that's what i meant bardo :-)
i dont think he will allow blood to be shed.

Mohaly said...

I hope not, but 3 died so far since the decree regardless of who killed them and which side the are from.

Maryam said...

check this.
it is circulated like hell everywhere.
it is not that i believe what's written here, it is the meaning behind it. some ppl really dont care of blood shed, as long as it gets them to their goal.
BOTH parties are lelasaf involved in it-librals and islamists.
mothers and families pay a very high price for their damn politics.
the ugly truth that will never change.

خالد يوسف بيقول صراحه ان الهدف من النزول بوكرا للزحف على قصر الاتحادية هو الصدام مع مؤيدي الرئيس لو تواجدو هناك ولما يسقط شهداء من الجانبين ده هيسهل تدخل الجيش ونزوله للشوارع يعني اليساريين والناصريين عاوزينها حرب اهلية وانقلاب عسكري وده موش غريب عليهم بس ياريت بقى كل الاحزاب اللي داعية للنزول بوكرا تجيب زعماءها سواء كان حمدين او البرادعي او عمرو موسى ومعاهم خالد يوسف وكمان اولادهم واحفادهم ويوقفوهم في الصف الاولاني من المسيرة وهوما اللي يدافعو عن تحقيق اهدافهم بدل مايحاربو باولاد الناس ويطلعو على جثثهم وهوما قاعدين في بيوتهم مدفيين مع عيالهم في الامان.D.N

Mohaly said...

What I was expecting has happened exactly :(

Maryam said...

i cant believe this is happening and he is silent about it.
tayeb toz fina e7na, mesh mohem. isn't he scared of the day he will face Allah?
i feel awful and scared of the coming days.
i could never imagine he would go so far. and feel terrible for believing for a second they were really religious.

Mohaly said...

I rest my case then.

Maryam said...

where are we heading?
i know what you said before, again, i could have never imagine.

I dont feel guilty for electing him, he wanst my first choice anyway. choosing him was to escape the other option which was for surely bloody, but more quiet.

everything is so ugly and all i can do is to runaway to Allah.

Please keep the conversation going. i can imagine how busy you are.




Mohaly said...

Allah is our last and only hope now .. I was seeing that coming and wrote about it, but deep inside kan nefsy may7salsh ...

Things wont be the same again even if we pass this.

Maryam said...

Things have exploded and the ugly truth of ppl came out.I guess none will Forget how others talked or felt.
Muslims, Christians, liberals, no more Egyptians.
I don't know what to say

Mohaly said...

say: اللهم إرنا الحق حقا و إرزقنا إتباعه و الباطل باطلا و إرزقنا إجتنابه

Maryam said...

I do wallahi.how can someone be so cduel?
What is he
How can Someone lie to allah
Thamk you for keeping the conversation here.so much needed
Rabena yostor men 3ando

Mohaly said...

This post (832) will be my last post in 2012. I have nothing more to say.

Maryam said...

That is bad news but i understand. I hoped you would continue writing.nothing is worse than not to communicate

Mohaly said...

I will continue, but I really dont have anymore to be said plus I will travel for a while in couple of planned conferences/retreats that will surely help me to detach and focus, and may be things are better by the beginning of the year when I am back.

and if I found myself able to write during this period, I will.

For the communication, this post is general enough to continue our discussion according to what is going on around, so keep commenting, and I will keep replying here till I am back to posting new articles.

Maryam said...

Can't say I am surprised by your decision. I saw it coming, just hoped otherwise.as said, I understand :-)

I started trying to detach myself from what is going on. it is getting too much to cope with for any sane person :-).

every new day brings the hope of new beginnings, who knows. yemken rabena yehdi.

Have no comment to the new decree. i didnt stay up to hear it.and seems that i didnt miss much.

fine, i will keep commenting and thank you for your time you offer.but please dont let it push you. it's ok, begad.

Mohaly said...

I enjoy our discussion, and I consider it from the de-stress time so no pushing at allll.

Mohaly said...

For the decree, the funnies thing I heard and summarized it: They took back the 200 LE and gave us four 50 LE notes.

Just a face-lift.

Maryam said...

me too wallahi. thank you for the kind words.
it would be nice to see you smiling. virtually ya3ni :-)

i just read it. at the first moment i didnt understand what it is all about.
i think they gave us 10x20 LE instead of the 200 notes.
heard that elekhwan will make a supporting masira for the cancallation of the 1st and issuing the 2nd.

shoft elhana?

Mohaly said...

shoft ...

if u noticed I tag my political posts with "political maturity" .. it is tagged like that for a reason :)

Maryam said...

it made me laugh wallahi.

something is going on in the MoI. they are turning into angles all of a sudden. this makes me suspicious. i dotn believe they support the protestors. there is a game here, but i cant decide what. for some reason they don't protect protestors against attackers, they join protestors and play innocent.

Maryam said...

i am reading an interesting book called
قاموس العادات والتقاليد والتعابير المصرية – احمد امين

it was written in 1953. it is a nice runaway of what we live in now. if you wish, get it from Al shourouk and we can discuss it when we finish reading.

here the softcopy

http://www.mgohary.net/Images/Publication/File_89.pdf
or teh hardcopy from el shourouk bookstore.
i really enjoyed the discussion of Bab el khouroug as literature

Mohaly said...

of course I read it .. by the way Ahmed Amin is the father of the great Dr.Galal Amin my beloved writer.

Maryam said...

good. as soon as i finish it, we can start the discussion then.
that is if you will psot about it :-)

hey, that is news for me. thanx for sharing

and, thx for the virtual smile.
keep it

Maryam said...

i am dying to read your comment of yesterday's cancellation of the day before's decision :-)
of curse i can imagine how it would be, but still want to know it.

this can't be tagged under "political Maturity", la2. this is different. it has direct and indirect implications that i dont want to believe. begad, it made me speechless, then amused, then it finally scared me.

so?

Mohaly said...

I think Morsi should be put on a simulator for at least 6 months and do all his trials and errors ... Mesh hayenfa3 every couple of days he or his government issue a wrong decision and take it back, sometime even on the same day... Eih No Environmental Scanning or Decision Support AT ALL!!
E7na mesh feran tagarob, yar7amkom Allah.

اطرف ما حدث في الفيلم بتاع امبارح "فرض الضرائب" ان فجأة الي كانوا بيشكروا و بيبرروا القرارت بفرض الضرائب و حنكة الرئيس لانقاذ الاقتصاد اتحولوا فجأة بعد قرار الرئيس بوقف الضرائب بعديها بساعتين بيبرروا ويتغنوا بعطف الرئيس و احساسه علي طبقات الشعب

Maryam said...

looks like the Decision Support Center of the Cabinet is not working any more.

ya3ni it was expected to raise prices on some items, but the timing was either deadly stupid or deadly irresponsible. he knows the country is already on fire, and shouldnt have signed it at first place. and it doesnt take political maturity, just common sense.

Maryam said...

i dont want to listen to those who said he took it back as a kind of "i am the good guy" until after the consitution war is over. sooner or later he will have to face it.
just wshed he would have been honest and wise to state the actual financial crises we are stuck with and go on with the price increase.

Maryam said...

the new post is nice :-)
my sis was telling me yesterday that we should do soemthing outstanding. then we both went to bed with no idea what to do :-)

Maryam said...

i remembered you yeterday, while watching Omar on MBC1 at 5.00, while eating lunch. the episode 24 when he started his khelafa.

this man gets me psychological complications begad. i kept comparing like i always do.

he was wondering in the main souq to check on ppl. when he realized that some traders are unfair, he sent a "detective woman" to report to him the errors they do.
and when she did, he approved of her judgement on the trader and announced his full support to her and announced her capacble of answering any questions related to halal or harram in trading affairs.

thought of sharing :-)

Mohaly said...

Talking about Omar is endless ... I LOVE RESPECT and see him as THE ROLE MODEL ..

Maryam said...

yes. i never knew why i loved his personality, although i am not a fan of violence. usually ppl like Abu Bakr more. but for me it is just him in many ways.
even the one story known about him dealing with his wife fascinates me.

role model for the nation leader, the only one after Rsoul Alah PBUH.

I enjoy watching the series for teh third time

Maryam said...

Have you witnessed internet outage this week? there were many complains from different IPs of the outage allover Cairo this week.
seems they started the blocking of "porno sites" they were talking about. human stupidity has no end. really. shouldn't they learn from the failure of this control in china.

Mohaly said...

I had long years of Experience in Internet and this is complete stupidity, they will never really succeed in banning it, and all what will happen is slower internet and millions of pounds spent in-vain.

Maryam said...

Watching Hassanein Heikal's interview on CBC, then Ahmed Kamal Aboul Magd with Wael el Ibrachi, both said it very clearly: they had a talk with the President and didn't walk out of the room until they were 100% sure that he knows everything going on.
so it is not the usual excuse of "his ppl didnt tell him the truth" like Mubarak.

How do you evalute him now?

Mohaly said...

Same evaluation. Morsi is not the president, Morsi is the Ekhwan Ambassador in the Presidency, so he meets whomever, it wont make a difference.

Maryam said...

so is everyone else. the big three Bradei, Hamdeen, Moussa are the embassadors of a certain group in Egypt. i ddint see any of them give a damn about the low/poor category of ppl who are loosing their daily bread during their race towards the crown.

seems we need a complete new face for the mission.

Maryam said...

Yesterday i came across a nice incident, which i want to share.
a young lady of 16 years was having an interview with Mona el Shazly on MBC Masr telling about her particiaption and many of her colleagues in demonstrations against the constituion and the troubles she went through when 2 officials of the Ministry of Education came to "INVESTIGATE" her and "BLAMING" her for such a move.
the way this young lady was talking in confidence, brave and well manner just captured my heart.
i think Egypt will have a brighter future when these young people take over things.
if you have time awtch it. it will make you feel alot better

Mohaly said...

I am sure that the new generation (currently teenagers) will change the life in Egypt completely ..


By the way I will be travelling for the next 2 weeks, I may not be able to regularly check the blog.

Just in case, I couldn't .. I wish you a HAPPY and BLESSED new year..

In-shaa- Allah will resume writing articles/posts when I am back.

Maryam said...

That is good news, your travelling i mean. i think you needed the change. enjoy it whereever you are going, and try to de-charge your battery of this year's event and re-charge it for the next year.

I sincerely wish you a happy new year that will bring you the blessings you need.

thank you so much for caring to tell me. appreciate the gesture. and thank you for the wishes. very much needed.

come home safe inshaa Allah and try to relax. :-)